Journals of the Senate
67 Elizabeth II , A.D. 2018, Canada
1st Session, 42nd Parliament
Issue 231 (Revised)
Thursday, September 27, 2018
1:30 p.m.
The Honourable GEORGE J. FUREY, Speaker
The Members convened were:
The Honourable Senators
AndreychukAtaullahjanBattersBellemareBernardBlack (Alberta)Black (Ontario)BoisvenuBonifaceBoveyBoyerBrazeauBussonCampbellCarignanChristmasCordyCormierCoyleDagenaisDalphondDawsonDayDeacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DeanDowneDoyleDuffyDupuisEatonEggletonFureyGagnéGalvezGoldGreeneGriffinHarderHartlingHousakosJoyalKlyneMacDonaldMaltaisManningMarshallMarwahMassicotteMcCallumMcCoyMcInnisMcIntyreMégieMitchellMiville-DechêneMocklerMoncionMunsonNeufeldNgoOhOmidvarPatePattersonPetitclercPlettPoirierPratteRavaliaSeidmanSinclairSmithStewart OlsenTannasTkachukVernerWallinWellsWetstonWhiteWoo
The Members in attendance to business were:
The Honourable Senators
AndreychukAtaullahjanBattersBellemareBernardBlack (Alberta)Black (Ontario)BoisvenuBonifaceBoveyBoyerBrazeauBussonCampbellCarignanChristmasCordyCormierCoyleDagenaisDalphondDawsonDayDeacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DeanDowneDoyleDuffyDupuisEatonEggletonFureyGagnéGalvezGoldGreeneGriffinHarderHartlingHousakosJoyalKlyneMacDonaldMaltaisManningMarshallMarwahMassicotteMcCallumMcCoyMcInnisMcIntyreMégieMitchellMiville-DechêneMocklerMoncionMunsonNeufeldNgoOhOmidvarPatePattersonPetitclercPlettPoirierPratteRavaliaSeidmanSinclairSmithStewart OlsenTannasTkachukVernerWallinWellsWetstonWhiteWoo
The first list records senators present in the Senate Chamber during the course of the sitting.
An asterisk in the second list indicates a senator who, while not present during the sitting, was in attendance to business, as defined in subsections 8(2) and (3) of the Senators Attendance Policy.
PRAYERS
INTRODUCTION OF SENATORS
The Honourable the Speaker informed the Senate that the Clerk of the Senate had received certificates from the Registrar General of Canada showing that:
Beverley Busson, and
Martin Klyne,
respectively, had been summoned to the Senate.
The Honourable the Speaker informed the Senate that there were senators without waiting to be introduced.
The Honourable Senator Busson was introduced between the Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., and the Honourable Senator Boniface, and having presented Her Majesty’s Writ of Summons it was read by one of the clerks at the table as follows:
CANADA
Julie Payette
(G.S.)
Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, Canada and Her other Realms and Territories QUEEN, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.
TO
Our Trusty and Well-beloved,
BEVERLEY BUSSON
A Member of Our Order of Canada,
A Member of the Order of British Columbia,
of North Okanagan Region, in the Province of British Columbia
GREETING:
KNOW YOU, that as well for the especial trust and confidence We have manifested in you, as for the purpose of obtaining your advice and assistance in all weighty and arduous affairs which may the State and Defence of Canada concern, We have thought fit to summon you to the Senate of Canada.
AND WE do command you, that all difficulties and excuses whatsoever laying aside, you be and appear for the purposes aforesaid, in the Senate of Canada at all times whensoever and wheresoever Our Parliament may be in Canada convoked and holden, and this you are in no wise to omit.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent and the Great Seal of Canada to be hereunto affixed.
WITNESS:
Our Right Trusty and Well-beloved Julie Payette, Chancellor and Principal Companion of Our Order of Canada, Chancellor and Commander of Our Order of Military Merit, Chancellor and Commander of Our Order of Merit of the Police Forces, Governor General and Commander-in-Chief of Canada.
AT OUR GOVERNMENT HOUSE, in Our City of Ottawa, this twenty-fourth day of September in the year of Our Lord two thousand and eighteen and in the sixty-seventh year of Our Reign.
BY COMMAND,
N. BAINS
Registrar General of Canada
The Honourable Senator Busson came to the table and took and subscribed the oath prescribed by law, which was administered by the Clerk of the Senate, the Commissioner appointed for that purpose, and took her seat as a member of the Senate.
The Honourable Senator Klyne was introduced between the Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., and the Honourable Senator Sinclair, and having presented Her Majesty’s Writ of Summons it was read by one of the clerks at the table as follows:
CANADA
Julie Payette
(G.S.)
Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, Canada and Her other Realms and Territories QUEEN, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.
TO
Our Trusty and Well-beloved,
MARTIN KLYNE
of White City, in the Province of Saskatchewan
GREETING:
KNOW YOU, that as well for the especial trust and confidence We have manifested in you, as for the purpose of obtaining your advice and assistance in all weighty and arduous affairs which may the State and Defence of Canada concern, We have thought fit to summon you to the Senate of Canada.
AND WE do command you, that all difficulties and excuses whatsoever laying aside, you be and appear for the purposes aforesaid, in the Senate of Canada at all times whensoever and wheresoever Our Parliament may be in Canada convoked and holden, and this you are in no wise to omit.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent and the Great Seal of Canada to be hereunto affixed.
WITNESS:
Our Right Trusty and Well-beloved Julie Payette, Chancellor and Principal Companion of Our Order of Canada, Chancellor and Commander of Our Order of Military Merit, Chancellor and Commander of Our Order of Merit of the Police Forces, Governor General and Commander-in-Chief of Canada.
AT OUR GOVERNMENT HOUSE, in Our City of Ottawa, this twenty-fourth day of September in the year of Our Lord two thousand and eighteen and in the sixty-seventh year of Our Reign.
BY COMMAND,
N. BAINS
Registrar General of Canada
The Honourable Senator Klyne came to the table and took and subscribed the oath prescribed by law, which was administered by the Clerk of the Senate, the Commissioner appointed for that purpose, and took his seat as a member of the Senate.
The Honourable the Speaker informed the Senate that the honourable senators introduced today had made and subscribed the Declaration of Qualification required of them by the Constitution Act, 1867, in the presence of the Clerk of the Senate, the Commissioner appointed to receive and witness same.
Senators’ Statements
Some Honourable Senators made statements.
ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Tabling of Documents
The Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., tabled the following:
Charter Statement prepared by the Minister of Justice in relation to Bill C-81, An Act to ensure a barrier-free Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2454.
Report on the state of Canada’s forests for the year 2018, pursuant to the Department of Natural Resources Act, S.C. 1994, c. 41, sbs. 7(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2455.
Question Period
The Senate proceeded to Question Period.
Orders of the Day
Government Business
Bills – Third Reading
Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Bills – Second Reading
Orders No. 1 to 10 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Second reading of Bill C-71, An Act to amend certain Acts and Regulations in relation to firearms.
The Honourable Senator Pratte moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Coyle, that the bill be read the second time.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Wells moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Smith, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Reports of Committees – Other
Order No. 12 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
The Honourable Senator Patterson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Stewart Olsen:
That Order No. 13, under the heading Reports of Committees — Other be discharged from the Orders of the Day.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The Honourable Senator Boniface moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Wallin:
That Order No. 15, under the heading Reports of Committees — Others be discharged from the Orders of the Day.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Orders No. 16 and 17 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Motions
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Jaffer, seconded by the Honourable Senator Cordy:
That the following Address be presented to His Excellency the Governor General of Canada:
To His Excellency the Right Honourable David Johnston, Chancellor and Principal Companion of the Order of Canada, Chancellor and Commander of the Order of Military Merit, Chancellor and Commander of the Order of Merit of the Police Forces, Governor General and Commander-in-Chief of Canada.
MAY IT PLEASE YOUR EXCELLENCY:
We, Her Majesty’s most loyal and dutiful subjects, the Senate of Canada in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed to both Houses of Parliament.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Bellemare moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Petitclerc, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The Honourable Senator Bellemare moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Harder, P.C.:
That, in order to allow the Senate to receive a Minister of the Crown during Question Period as authorized by the Senate on December 10, 2015, and notwithstanding rule 4-7, when the Senate sits on Tuesday, October 2, 2018, Question Period shall begin at 3:30 p.m., with any proceedings then before the Senate being interrupted until the end of Question Period, which shall last a maximum of 40 minutes;
That, if a standing vote would conflict with the holding of Question Period at 3:30 p.m. on that day, the vote be postponed until immediately after the conclusion of Question Period;
That, if the bells are ringing for a vote at 3:30 p.m. on that day, they be interrupted for Question Period at that time, and resume thereafter for the balance of any time remaining; and
That, if the Senate concludes its business before 3:30 p.m. on that day, the sitting be suspended until that time for the purpose of holding Question Period.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The Honourable Senator Bellemare moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Mitchell:
That, when the Senate next adjourns after the adoption of this motion, it do stand adjourned until Tuesday, October 2, 2018, at 2 p.m.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Inquiries
Order No. 3 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Other Business
Bills – Messages from the House of Commons
Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Senate Public Bills – Third Reading
Orders No. 1 to 5 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Senate Public Bills – Second Reading
Orders No. 1 to 7 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Pate, seconded by the Honourable Senator Gold, for the second reading of Bill S-251, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (independence of the judiciary) and to make related amendments.
After debate,
With leave of the Senate,
Further debate on the motion was adjourned until the next sitting, in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett.
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Wallin, seconded by the Honourable Senator Boniface, for the second reading of Bill S-252, Voluntary Blood Donations Act (An Act to amend the Blood Regulations).
After debate,
Further debate on the motion was adjourned until the next sitting, in the name of the Honourable Senator Omidvar.
Order No. 10 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Commons Public Bills – Second Reading
Orders No. 1 to 6 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Ordered, That consideration of Order No. 7 be postponed until the next sitting of the Senate.
Private Bills – Second Reading
Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Reports of Committees – Other
Orders No. 1 and 5 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Massicotte, seconded by the Honourable Senator Moore, for the adoption of the seventh report (interim), as amended, of the Special Senate Committee on Senate Modernization, entitled Senate Modernization: Moving Forward (Regional interest), presented in the Senate on October 18, 2016.
The Honourable Senator Housakos moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Wells, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Orders No. 7 and 8, and 50 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
The order was called for resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Mockler, seconded by the Honourable Senator Tkachuk:
That the twenty-fourth report of the Standing Senate Committee on National Finance, entitled Fair, Simple and Competitive Taxation: The way forward for Canada, deposited with the Clerk of the Senate on December 13, 2017, be adopted and that, pursuant to rule 12-24(1), the Senate request a complete and detailed response from the government, with the Minister of Finance being identified as minister responsible for responding to the report.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The order was called for resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Eggleton, P.C., seconded by the Honourable Senator Mercer:
That the twenty-fourth report of the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology, entitled The Federal Role in a Social Finance Fund, tabled in the Senate on May 10, 2018, be adopted and that, pursuant to rule 12-24(1), the Senate request a complete and detailed response from the government, with the Minister of Families, Children and Social Development being identified as minister responsible for responding to the report.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The order was called for resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Eggleton, P.C., seconded by the Honourable Senator Joyal, P.C.:
That the twenty-sixth report of the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology, entitled Breaking Down Barriers: A critical analysis of the Disability Tax Credit and Registered Disability Savings Plan, tabled with the Clerk of the Senate on June 27, 2018, be adopted and that, pursuant to rule 12-24(1), the Senate request a complete and detailed response from the government, with the Minister of National Revenue being identified as minister responsible for responding to the report, in consultation with the Ministers of Finance and Families, Children and Social Development.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Order No. 96 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Motions
Orders No. 31, 73, 89, 146, 158, 189, 215, 245, 286, 302, 310, 325, 328, 357 and 358, and 371 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Inquiries
Orders No. 8 and 12 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Tardif, calling the attention of the Senate to regional universities and the important role they play in Canada.
The Honourable Senator Moncion moved, for the Honourable Senator Cormier, seconded by the Honourable Senator Gold, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Orders No. 24, 26, 28, 36, 39 and 40, 42 to 44, and 46 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
MOTIONS
The Honourable Senator Stewart Olsen moved, for the Honourable Senator Black (Alberta), seconded by the Honourable Senator Andreychuk:
That the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce be authorized to examine and report on the potential benefits and challenges of open banking for Canadian financial services consumers, with specific focus on the federal government’s regulatory role.
That the committee submit its final report no later than February 22, 2019, and that the committee retain all powers necessary to publicize its findings until 180 days after the tabling of the final report.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
ADJOURNMENT
The Honourable Senator Bellemare moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Petitclerc:
That the Senate do now adjourn.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
(Accordingly, at 4:16 p.m., the Senate was continued until Tuesday, October 2, 2018, at 2 p.m.)